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<span style="font-family: Arial;">I pulled out Michael <span class="SpellE">Lally&#8217;s</span> <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">None of the
Above: New Poets of the USA</i> (Crossing Press, 1976), searching for that quote
I used from Jim Gustafson in my note about Joseph Massey&#8217;s <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Minima St.</i> But instead of putting the anthology back after getting
what I needed, I&#8217;ve left it sitting on my desk and have been rereading it for
the first time in years. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">The book is a juicy time
capsule, an excellent cross section of literary tendencies that were active
among younger poets during the middle of that decade. Most visible are a
somewhat blurry, already diverging version of the New York School (Phillip
Lopate, Paul Violi &amp; Hilton Obenziner from the uptown scene*, Alice Notley,
Maureen Owen &amp; Bernadette Mayer from St. Marks, a pre-Texas Lorenzo Thomas,
Joe Brainard), langpo (Mayer of course, Bruce Andrews, Ray <span class="SpellE">Di</span>
Palma, P. Inman, Lynne Dreyer, yours truly) &amp; a post-Iowa but &#8220;anti-workshop&#8221;
phenomenon of the period that for want of a better term was called Actualism in
those days: Darrell Gray, George Mattingly, Dave Morice and Gustafson. In
addition to Inman &amp; Dreyer are three other </span><st1:place><st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;">Washington</span></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;">, </span><st1:state><span style="font-family: Arial;">D.C.</span></st1:state></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;"> poets of the period: Ed Cox, Tim <span class="SpellE">Dlugos</span>
and Terence Winch. The collection also contains some poets who are
exceptionally difficult to categorize: Barbara <span class="SpellE">Baracks</span>,
who departed from the poetry scene &amp; the Bay Area just as language writing
was gathering steam; Merrill <span class="SpellE">Gilfillan</span>, who has gone
on to become one of the finest nature writers we have; Joanne Kyger, a literary
renaissance all to herself**; <a href="http://www.absolutearts.com/artsnews/2002/09/27/30329.html">Patti Smith</a>,
just at the cusp of rock stardom; Nathan Whiting, a fascinating loner who used
to compose long, skinny texts in his head while running great distances***; and
of course the editor, Michael Lally, whose own activity in Baltimore &amp;
Washington had proven a catalyst for a lot of the younger poets there but who
by the mid 1970s had moved to New York before re-emerging in Los Angeles, working
as an actor under the name <a href="http://us.imdb.com/Name?Lally,+Michael+David">Michael David Lally</a> in
TV and films.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Twenty-six years shifts
perceptions around a bit, so that one reads these texts to some degree knowing
which writers one still reads with interest and enthusiasm a quarter century
hence. <span class="SpellE">Lally&#8217;s</span> own interests and blinders are evident
enough &#8211; that is a remarkably East Coast version of langpo, for example. And
with the exceptions of Kyger and <span class="GramE">myself</span>, writers whose
linkage to the New American poetry is to anything other than the </span><st1:state><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">New York</span></st1:place></st1:state><span style="font-family: Arial;"> school are notably absent. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">What intrigues me today is
the fate of Actualism, which as a phenomenon has largely disappeared over the
past two decades. The term itself was taken from the Actualist Conventions put
on in </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Berkeley</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;"> at the theater of the Blake Street Hawkeyes.
Coordinated by poet G.P. <span class="SpellE">Skratz</span> and the Hawkeyes,
these annual weekend-long marathons included all manner of performance &#8211; Whoopi
Goldberg was a Hawkeye in the early 1980s &#8211; while the poetics were heavily
influenced by the teaching and writing of Ted Berrigan &amp; Anselm Hollo, as
well as by Andrei Codrescu, then a recent arrival to SF from Detroit. In
addition to the poets included in the Lally anthology, Pat Nolan, Keith Abbott,
Jim <span class="SpellE">Nisbet</span> and Victoria <span class="SpellE">Rathbun</span>
were among the most visible in the Bay Area. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Perhaps the most important
thing to note is that Actualism was an <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">-ism</i>
that never sought to be any sort of movement &#8211; the anarcho /
anti-organizational impulse was very strong. If anything, the Actualist
Conventions were themselves a spoof of the least attractive aspect of their
surrealist predecessors+. The one other serious manifestation of the phenomenon
was an even smaller <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Actualist Anthology</i>
(1977, The Spirit That Moves Us), edited by Gray &amp; Morty Sklar. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">On some level, Actualism
might be thought of as how the impact of Ted Berrigan resonated through </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Iowa City</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;"> to </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;">. While it was extremely powerful in the 1970s, it&#8217;s
harder to see a quarter century later. One might make a similar case for the
influence Berrigan had on </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Chicago</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;">
and look to the Yellow Press anthology, also from 1976, called <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">15 </i></span><st1:city><st1:place><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Chicago</span></i></st1:place></st1:city><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial;"> Poets</span></i><span style="font-family: Arial;">.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="SpellE"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Nisbet</span></span><span style="font-family: Arial;"> has gone on to become a novelist of neo-noir
thrillers, Abbott &amp; Mattingly teach at </span><st1:place><st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial;">Naropa &amp; New</span></st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial;"> </span><st1:placetype><span style="font-family: Arial;">College</span></st1:placetype></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">, respectively, Morice continues his Dr. Alphabet routines, and <span class="SpellE">Skratz</span> &amp; Nolan still pop up in print from time to time.
But Gray drank himself to death with an intensity that was terrifying,
Gustafson returned to </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Detroit</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;">
where he died too young of an aneurysm without ever having the breakthrough
book for which his poetry appeared to be destined, and others who were once
loosely affiliated with this phenomenon, such as Allan <span class="SpellE">Kornblum</span>,
evolved their own careers in different directions. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">I do still sense the impact
of the Actualist frame of mind in everything from the Coffee House Books
catalog to the Exquisite Corpse website. But if you want some feel for how
Actualism fit in back in its heyday, <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">None
of the Above</i> contextualizes it best. The rare book website, <a href="http://www.abebooks.com/">abebooks</a>, lists 10 copies reasonably priced
in stores around the </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">U.S.</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span style="font-family: Arial;"> But pay attention: there are at least three other
volumes with that same title, one subtitled &#8220;Why Presidents Fail and What Can
Be </span><st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">Don</span></st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">e About It,&#8221; another &#8220;Behind the Myth of Scholastic
Aptitude,&#8221; and the third by children&#8217;s book author, Rosemary Wells. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">* Although
Hilton had already moved west and was immersed in political organizing by then.
<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">** An <a href="http://epc.buffalo.edu/authors/kyger/silliman.html">email</a> I sent to
Linda Russo on </span><st1:date day="28" month="4" year="1998"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">April 28, 1998</span></st1:date><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> fills in what I mean by this. It&#8217;s
part of the Joanne Kyger web page at the </span><st1:place><st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Electronic</span></st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span><st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Poetry</span></st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"> </span><st1:placetype><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">Center</span></st1:placetype></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;">.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">The World in Time and Space</span></i><span style="font-family: Arial;"> arrived in the mailbox yesterday and it&#8217;s a big fat
wonderful collection of essays &amp; interviews about contemporary poetry, or
more exactly, poetry from the New Americans of the 1950s to the present. My first
thumb-through (which took a couple of hours) tells me that there is a lot in
here to make me think, learn, laugh, cringe &amp; want to argue. Ed Foster
&amp; Joe </span><st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">Don</span></st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">ahue have done a first-rate job in putting together a
volume on poetry that matters. The list of contributors and their pieces will
tell you why:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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</span></span></span>&lt;![endif]&gt;<span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">Bruce Andrews, Making Social Sense: Poetics &amp; the Political
Imaginary <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Oppenheimer's Changing Visions<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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since 1970 <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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The </span><st1:state><st1:place><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">New York</span></st1:place></st1:state><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;"> School of Poetry,
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</span></span></span>&lt;![endif]&gt;<span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">David <span class="SpellE">Clippinger</span>, Between Silence and
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Account of Women-Edited Small Presses and Journals<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Publishing in </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">L.A.</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;"> Susan <span class="SpellE">Vanderborg</span>, "If This Were the Place to Begin":
Little Magazines and the Early Language Poetry Scene<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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of Cultural Memory<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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House has done a tremendous job of promoting American poetry in recent years: <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Primary Trouble: <span class="GramE">An</span>
Anthology of Contemporary American Poetry</i>, in 1996; <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">An Anthology of New (American) Poets</i> in 1998; and Mary Margaret
Sloan&#8217;s monumental <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Moving Borders: Three
Decades of Innovative Writing by Women</i>, also in 1998. In 2000, Talisman
House published <span class="GramE"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Crossing</i></span><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"> Centuries: The New Generation in Russian
Poetry.</i> All are &#8220;must-have&#8221; volumes for any halfway decent collection of
contemporary poetry. These are available through <a href="http://www.spdbooks.org/">Small Press Distribution</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Rereading &#8220;Bean Spasms&#8221; in <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Angel Hair Anthology</i> does so many
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     great poet Berrigan was, something that for me can slip when not recalling
     the range, depth &amp; delicacy his work was able to reach all at the same
     time</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6.0pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Makes me realize yet
     again that it was this poem &amp; not &#8220;The Sonnets&#8221; that truly made Ted
     into a </span><st1:state><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">New
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     poet, rather than, say, merely a brilliant Providence Army vet who got to
     Manhattan by way of Tulsa<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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     Part 3, with 13 lines, is in its own way a variation of a sonnet &#8211; &#8220;you
     string a sonnet around yr fat gut&#8221; he says only two lines in the section
     that is </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">labe</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;">led &#8220;4,&#8221; Berrigan actually playing in the poem
     with the role of subsection headings. Later he will say, midline (and with
     no stanza break on either side), &#8220;Right Here. That&#8217;s Part 5&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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     how, reading Louis <span class="SpellE">Cabri&#8217;s</span> <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The Mood Embosser</i> (Coach House, 2001) last summer, which is
     really a fine first book, at times made me think &#8220;this is what Ted
     Berrigan would be like with politics,&#8221; but that, now confronting Berrigan
     directly, seeing how the great range of reference inherent in Ted&#8217;s best
     work could not/would not restrict itself to a domain such as the political
     &amp; that it is precisely how the social, the intimate &amp; the purely
     fanciful interact that made Ted <span class="SpellE">Ted</span><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6.0pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Reminds me yet again
     of what an important an influence Berrigan has been for so many of my
     favorite poets &#8211; </span><st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">Kit
      Robinson</span></st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">, </span><st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">Bob Perelman</span></st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;"> &amp; Alan Bernheimer in my own generation,
     Cabris more recently &#8211; and why this is a good thing<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6.0pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; tab-stops: list .5in;"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Which in turn reminds
     me that, betwixt the poets of the Allen anthology &amp; my own cohort,
     there were really two significant strains of innovation in poetry: the
     &#8220;second generation NY school,&#8221; around Ted, Padgett, <span class="SpellE">Berkson</span>,
     <span class="SpellE">Schjeldahl</span>, Gallup et al and the poets around <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Caterpillar</i>, Robert Kelly, Jerry
     Rothenberg, Clayton Eshleman, Diane <span class="SpellE">Wakoski</span>,
     David Antin<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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of the most memorable moments co-<span class="SpellE">curating</span> the Grand
Piano poetry series in </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;"> with </span><st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">Tom Mandel</span></st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;"> in the mid-1970s was the evening we hosted Ted
Berrigan and SF-expatriate George Stanley. I recall counting the audience at
significantly over 100, well beyond what that little room could hold
comfortably, and how both poets were masterful that evening. But what may have
been strangest about the event was the degree to which each poet brought half
of the audience to the reading and how very few of the audience members had any
idea just who the other poet happened to be. It was a meeting of very
different, though essentially simpatico, tribes. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Afterwards,
the scene divided literally into two parties that could have been characterized
as straight/gay or NY/SF, although there were exceptions to all such axes of
division. At the <span class="SpellE">Berrigan&#8217;s</span> affair south of Market,
some epigone made a point of telling Ted just how much better he had been than
&#8220;that other poet.&#8221; Ted stopped that person &#8211; I&#8217;m not naming names because the
miscreant has been edited from the memory card &#8211; instantly and went into a terrific
impromptu lecture on what an excellent poet George Stanley was and how
important it was to fully understand the </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">San Francisco</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;"> renaissance, including its own second generation and
the </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Vancouver</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;"> diaspora that followed the death of Jack Spicer.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>The abstract lyric certainly
existed before Barbara Guest &#8211; Stein, for example, and some of Williams&#8217; work,
especially prior to World War II; the French can go back to Mallarmé &#8211; but it
was/is Guest who in English seems to have perfected the form in the 1950s, a
period in which she was largely (and unfairly) unnoticed with the significant
exception of the Allen anthology &#8211; it is Guest who lead off the New York School
section in that epochal collection, even as she had the fewest pages of work
represented. Reading her poetry of that period sends me back along a different
coordinate &#8211; to the texts of David Schubert and through him to the short poems
of Hart Crane. I don&#8217;t know if Guest read Schubert, who seems to have largely
slipped through the cracks of literary history (albeit acknowledged as an
influence by John Ashbery and visibly evident in the poetry of Frank
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>There is a tendency in
American poetry that one might characterize as academic in the old-fashioned
pejorative sense &amp; certainly the letters and essays in the 1983 <i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>QRL</i> issue on Schubert reflects that
tradition: Alan Tate, Ben <span class=SpellE>Belitt</span>, Horace Gregory,
Louise <span class=SpellE>Bogan</span>, Ted Weiss. In a sense, the New American
poetry and its descendents (which include virtually every progressive mode of </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span
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style='font-family:Arial'> poetry some 50 years hence) has exorcised itself of
even the memory of that tendency. Pound and Stein were geographically
inoculated from <span class=GramE>it,</span> the Objectivists simply avoided
all interaction (the feeling appears to have been mutual). Yet Williams dealt
with it and Marianne Moore positively thrived in that environment, and it is
evident that at least through Auden (curious interloper that he is after the
Second World War) the </span><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><span style='font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>In some sense, trying to
sort out the role of such influences is not unlike those followers of Creeley
who do not understand his enthusiasm for Crane or Stevens. </span><st1:City><st1:place><span
  style='font-family:Arial'>Reading</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial'> is itself always a narrative, the unfolding of
meaning in time &#8211; I read this book before that one. In my own life, it was
Philip Whalen&#8217;s poetry that gave me the inroads I needed in order to appreciate
Clark Coolidge&#8217;s work in the 1960s, yet I know of poets who came upon those two
writers in the opposite sequence and I simply cannot imagine what one would
make of it: I cannot fold my mental map into that configuration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>An analogy from music might
be the relationship between Bing Crosby and Jimi Hendrix. Before </span><st1:place><span
 style='font-family:Arial'>Crosby</span></st1:place><span style='font-family:
Arial'>, singers belted out tunes as if they were still performing from the
stage of an auditorium, even as they were finally being recorded. It was Crosby
who understood that the implication of the microphone was that you could sing
softly and bring out a whole new range of possible music. Similarly, Hendrix
was the first performer to understand the full implications of the
electrification of the guitar. Crosby and Hendrix equally revolutionized music.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>In a decade in which so many academic poets continue to sound as if they were the contemporaries of Bing Crosby, I
find it intriguing that Barbara Guest should become the most influential of the New American poets. In part, it no doubt is because her work has not yet been fully incorporated, much as the Objectivists of the 1930s needed to wait until the 1970s to be brought completely  into view. So perhaps it is <i>because </i> the current generation of academic poets seems as relevant to poetry as astrology does to astronomy, the abstract lyric carries forward within itself aspects of a tradition all but unheard elsewhere. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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but the volume as a whole has never appeared. The copy I&#8217;m reading comes from a
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>People have speculated over
the reasons why <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The H.D. Book</i> is not
in print, and conspiracy theories on the topic are not unpopular. But in some
sense, the book&#8217;s problem lies precisely in its genius &#8211; a work of criticism with
no argument, no theme, no development, <span class=GramE>no</span> expository
equivalent to a plot. It certainly has nodes around which it turns again and
again &#8211; </span><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-family:Arial'>Duncan</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
style='font-family:Arial'>&#8217;s autobiography, the poetry of Hilda Doolittle, <span
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between various occult practitioners extending outward from <span class=SpellE>Blavatsky</span>,
seers that </span><st1:City><st1:place><span style='font-family:Arial'>Duncan</span></st1:place></st1:City><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>So what we as readers must
then confront is a text that straddles genres neatly between critical theory
and autobiography and proceeds, as Shklovsky would have noticed, as plotless
prose, a work whose point is never to get anywhere, but always to bring the
reader into the presentness of reading itself. <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
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style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Spring &amp; All. </i>But in fact none of
these have ever had an easy or simple publishing history, as Duncan himself
certainly understood. In the 1950s, he had been the <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>I am the slowest of readers,
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requiring me to reread passages over &amp; over whenever I returned from my
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>Today, I am reading perhaps
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style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The Angel Hair Anthology, </i>Lorine <span
class=SpellE>Niedecker&#8217;s</span> <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Collected
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Curnow&#8217;s <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Early Days Yet,</i> Tan Lin&#8217;s <i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Lotion Bullwhip Giraffe, Conjunction&#8217;s </i>special
issue on <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>American Poetry: The State of
the Art,</i> Serge <span class=SpellE>Gavronsky&#8217;s</span> <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>66 for Starters</i>, Charles Tomlinson&#8217;s <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>Selected Poems,</i> James Sherry&#8217;s <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Our
Nuclear Heritage, </i>Frank Stanford&#8217;s <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The
Battlefield Where the Moon Says I Love You,</i> Barbara Guest&#8217;s <i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Selected Poems,</i> and <span class=SpellE>H.D.&#8217;s</span>
<i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Collected Poems 1912-1944. </i>Some of
these are &#8220;rereads&#8221; (Sherry, Stanford), but others (Lin, Curnow, Tomlinson) are
books that I have been reading literally for years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>In addition to this stack, I
have another that sits by the front door, waiting for those moments when I can
relax and sit on the porch and read &#8211; these are the books I took with me to
Nova Scotia this summer (though the Angel Hair anthology and Niedecker
collected were also in that group and have since migrated down to my study). In
my bedroom is another clutch of books of poetry that will be integrated with
the stack by the door. Plus the novel I&#8217;m currently reading, David Mitchell&#8217;s <span
class=GramE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Ghostwritten</i></span><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>.</i><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>The stack by the front door
includes Christian <span class=SpellE>Bok&#8217;s</span> <span class=SpellE><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Eunoia</i></span><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>, </i>Pattie McCarthy&#8217;s <span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>bk</i></span><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'> of (h<span
class=GramE>)<span class=SpellE>rs</span></span>,</i> Lyn Hejinian&#8217;s <i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>A Border Comedy,</i> Heaney&#8217;s version of <i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Beowulf,</i> <span class=SpellE>Besmilr</span>
Brigham&#8217;s <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Run Through Rock,</i> Jennifer <span
class=SpellE>Moxley&#8217;s</span> <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The Sense
Record, </i>Geoffrey Hill&#8217;s <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Speech!
Speech! </i>(<span class=GramE>a</span> curiously flaccid text given its
reputation), and Edwin Torres&#8217; <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>The
All-Union Day of the Shock Worker.</i><o:p></o:p></span></p>


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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Arial'>In a restroom upstairs is a
smaller stack of critical &amp;/or non-fiction texts that I&#8217;m working through
more slowly. And in the dining room is Stephen Wolfram&#8217;s self-published tome, <i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>A New Kind of Science,</i> which I&#8217;m going
through with the idea that there must be some ideas for poems in there that I
might use once I begin <i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Universe</i> in
earnest (still a year away, I&#8217;d guess).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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which I&#8217;ve downloaded to my Palm Pilot using the Adobe Acrobat Reader for Palm
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<li><a href='http://ronsillimanbibliography.blogspot.com/'>Silliman's Bibliography</a></li>
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<li><a href='http://twitter.com/ronsilliman'>Twitter</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.ubu.com/contemp/silliman/index.html'>Ubuweb</a></li>
<li><a href='https://library.ucsd.edu/speccoll/findingaids/mss0075.html'>UC San Diego Archives</a></li>
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">MEMOIRS &amp; COLLABORATIONS</span><br /><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Leningrad-American-Writers-Soviet-Union/dp/1562790056">Leningrad</a><br /><a href="http://www.thegrandpiano.org/">The Grand Piano</a><br /><a href="https://www.saltpublishing.com/products/under-albany-9781844710515">Under Albany</a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">CRITICISM</span><br /><a href="http://www.spdbooks.org/Producte/0937804207/the-new-sentence.aspx">The New Sentence</a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">ANTHOLOGY</span><br /><a href="https://secure.touchnet.com/C22921_ustores/web/classic/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCTID=327&SINGLESTORE=true">In The American Tree</a><br /><br /><br /><br />
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<br /><img alt="" src="file%3A///Users/Lynn/Desktop/silliman2a.jpg" / /><img alt="" src="file%3A///Users/Lynn/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems/moz-screenshot.png" / /><span style="color: #990000; font-weight: bold;">RON SILLIMAN</span> has written and edited 40 books, and had his poetry and criticism translated into 16 languages. Silliman was a 2012 Kelly Writers House Fellow, the 2010 recipient of the Levinson Prize from the Poetry Foundation, a 2003 Literary Fellow of the National Endowment for the Arts, a 2002 Fellow of the Pennsylvania Arts Council, and a 1998 Pew Fellow in the Arts. Silliman has a plaque in the walk dedicated to poetry in his home town of Berkeley and a sculpture in the Transit Center of Bury, Lancaster, a part of the Irwell Sculpture Trail. He lives in Chester County, Pennsylvania and teaches at the University of Pennsylvania.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />(c) 2002-2019 by Ron Silliman.
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